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hi all,

just wondering if botanical girl misses the timing if i use fragrance storm on her.

Thank you.

If you use the effect of Fragrance Storm to draw a 2nd card, then yes you will.  Otherwise, no you won't.

Ryoutaro, check your PMs

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No one's been able to take me seriously... But that will change when I beat you at a children's card game.

KalaniJasmine. I ask that you read through the following and tell us whether your last post would be considered appropriate for this forum:

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2372796:

KalaniJasmine. I ask that you read through the following and tell us whether your last post would be considered appropriate for this forum:

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What are you talking about Karl? I have not seen her violate any of those rules in fact she upholds them towards many other people.

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Karl, feel free to stand down.  Since PMs do not provide the recipient a tickler, KJ has used the acceptable standard for passing notice of an incoming PM.     IF (and it didn't happen) the Moderator feels that she has violated the intent of the forums, that is for him to take action.  He can delete the post, send her a PM, etc. 

Enjoy the game

Karl, is that a mockery of KalaniJasmine's (over)use of bolds?

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skey:

I'm in agreement with Tsui

Acceptable standard according to you? or is it written somewhere?
just clarifyingggg

Tsui, mockery is something that would be considered rulebreaking and bad here, so no it isn't.

so many unaddressed responses, all of which are off-topic.
the ironyy

More like a parody?

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skey:

I'm in agreement with Tsui

2372796:

Acceptable standard according to you? or is it written somewhere?
just clarifyingggg

Since you're the one implying kalanijasmine's post was not appropriated then it should be you who tells us the reason of that, i do not see any problem with her notifying someone else of a PM since the system doesn't notify you when you got new messages.

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E-mail, aim, 50 different other ways. But KJ doesn't have his contact info you say?

That's like being at work, in the office, using the phone/company e-mail for personal correspondence, or having the office phone being spammed by someone asking Sue whether or not she was going to the concert on the weekend, all because the person you're corresponding with doesn't have your cell phone number.

In both situations, one should see that instead of just taking "any means necessary, because it's ok" they should see that it's actually "it's not ok, so they should just wait"

Would it be ok, if, hypothetically, the only reason to contact someone is to hold people hostage? O wait, we call that terrorism.

Apologies to anyone offended, when I made a comparison between terrorism and what happens on these forums, but the similarities are there.
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So where is the line drawn? Who draws it?
I can tell you that it's neither you nor I, mr. Ybarra. It's probably a majority consensus (lol voting polls) or Mr. Debrito.

If you must know... I was PMing him to ask if he wanted to chat on MSN, this being our primary source of contact.

I can understand how you can feel frustrated and angry, and feel as if your opinion is being held hostage.

I can also understand how you can direct that anger towards me.

I appologise for the fact that my comments were so offensive to you. No offense was intended, and I will endevour to be that much more diplomatic in my responses in future.

With that being said, we have a Code of Conduct on this forum in order to help prevent hurt feelings and arguments from occuring, as well as to make certain that the forums are being used as they were intended.

Unfortunately, while there is a thing called "Freedom of Speech", it only goes so far before it crosses the line and begins impinging upon the rights of others.

Given the fact that all websites (including google) are considered Intellectual Property of their owners, posting in this forum is a privilage, not a right, and Upperdeck (being the owners of this forum) are legally allowed to place any sanctions on our behavior, our right to free speech, and our subject matter that they wish.

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No one's been able to take me seriously... But that will change when I beat you at a children's card game.

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If you use the effect of Fragrance Storm to draw a 2nd card, then yes you will.  Otherwise, no you won't.

okay, thank you for your replies.

SO the destroy and draw happens at same time. SO when you resolve the effect, the last thing to happen is the botanical girl going to the graveyard therefore she doesn't miss her timing. Right?

just making sure. sometimes i just wish they would make her effect mandatory like sangan. hehe, then there won't be any issue. :)

That is correct.

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skey:

I'm in agreement with Tsui

Yes KJ, I also agree that it is probably best to continue this discussion in private.

However, it's entirely possible that it'll be pointless, if you continue to make assumptions about my frustration and/or anger levels, or using irrelevant/illogical information. (e.g. Tsui said something about parodies, which can often infringe on the rights of others slanderously. However, parodies are protected under the First Amendment, despite slander being illegal.)

I too apologize if I came off as singling you out for any reason, as that was not my intention.

As all judges should strive to be the epitome of objectivity, and as such, our convictions and due process must not waiver to anything short of reason or logic.